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 Post subject: Re: Discontinued lanterns
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:03 am 
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The page on the Alpha 7 shows what look like Stanton 8 concrete columns but with a Thorn model number as well which is unusual as their installations were usually pictured on metal columns.

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There are still a few Alpha 10s around Nottingham that Claire knows about, and a few of us have them in our collections. ;) I didn't realise it was also a 55W lantern, that mounted at 5/6m or so must have looked weird. :? Claire knows of such an installation near a school, unfortunately now removed.


Alpha 10s in Nottingham! :shock: Wow, never seen those in all the years I've visited the fair city!

EDIT: Those concrete columns are Stanton 8F columns rebadged with the model number Q8F as if they are made by Thorn!

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I'm wondering where those Alpha 10's are in Nottingham...

I like the look of the Beta 1 - like a glass lampshade! I wonder if they ever got installed in great numbers, as I've never seen one. Also, what's an "Asmetric refractor"?

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A typo I think! More info here. I vaguely remember seeing these lanterns as a child in various places. There is also one survivor left in Hampshire which has been abandoned on a wall mount.

One of the Nottingham Alpha 10s.

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Phosco152 wrote:
A typo I think! More info here. I vaguely remember seeing these lanterns as a child in various places. There is also one survivor left in Hampshire which has been abandoned on a wall mount.


I think the one in Emsworth is an AEI Star Cone, which has a more curved appearance than the straight edged Beta 1.


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I like the look of the Beta 1 - like a glass lampshade! I wonder if they ever got installed in great numbers, as I've never seen one. Also, what's an "Asmetric refractor"?


I think sotonsteve posted an old picture of them in use (on Avenue/Arc installations) somewhere on the old forum, they looked so small!

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I found a shuttlecock the other day and it reminded me so much of the Beta 1's design!


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The official Beta 4 catalogue entry should make it easier to identify this lantern which is often confused with others.


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Catalogue entries for the rare Beta 6 fluorescent lantern and the not so rare Beta 5.


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The Beta 6 used to be installed around all of our local Government offices on pretty much exactly the same type of column as in the picture on Simon Cornwell's page on the lantern. They were all replaced in the mid 80s by Beta 79s. We had a few on our local side roads usually only as casual replacements for GEC's far more common (on the Fylde Coast) Z8256 lantern.

It's interesting that the Beta 6 had an anti-vandal bowl option made out of Darvic, a type of plastic produced locally to me by ICI. Darvic had a bad reputation for warping, perhaps explaining the rarity of these lanterns today!

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Gramma6 wrote:
The Beta 6 used to be installed around all of our local Government offices on pretty much exactly the same type of column as in the picture on Simon Cornwell's page on the lantern. They were all replaced in the mid 80s by Beta 79s. We had a few on our local side roads usually only as casual replacements for GEC's far more common (on the Fylde Coast) Z8256 lantern.

It's interesting that the Beta 6 had an anti-vandal bowl option made out of Darvic, a type of plastic produced locally to me by ICI. Darvic had a bad reputation for warping, perhaps explaining the rarity of these lanterns today!


It's probably more the multi-lamps and the energy consumption that finished them off, not forgetting just simply their age now...

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